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Hi all,
Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
thanks for your support
--
Samir Khodair
MAXIMO Engineer
Are you asking for this field to be on the login screen or when a person adds a new record?
FWIW - Sharing accounts is not a good idea. You'll have no way to track down a person who may be entering information incorrectly, or worse, deliberately wrong - Even if you add the field you asked about. What's to stop someone from entering one person's name instead of his own?
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
>
>
>
> has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
>
> thanks for your support
>
> --
> Samir Khodair
>
> MAXIMO Engineer
>
>
>
>
I think you just asked us to help you violate your licensing agreement. If so, I don't think you'll find help for that here.
Travis Herron
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
>
>
>
> has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
>
> thanks for your support
>
> --
> Samir Khodair
>
> MAXIMO Engineer
>
>
>
>
I think the best way to do it is tell management to shell out more money for user licenses, so you do not have to go the illegal route.
From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Verly
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:24 AM
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: shared logins tracking
Are you asking for this field to be on the login screen or when a person adds a new record?
FWIW - Sharing accounts is not a good idea. You'll have no way to track down a person who may be entering information incorrectly, or worse, deliberately wrong - Even if you add the field you asked about. What's to stop someone from entering one person's name instead of his own?
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
>
>
>
> has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
>
> thanks for your support
>
> --
> Samir Khodair
>
> MAXIMO Engineer
>
>
>
>
Are you really expecting people to make recommendations on how you can
violate your license agreement in a global, public support forum? Do you
feel that the approach you suggest is in some way more legitimate than
creating more users than you are licensed for? On the surface this question
reads as "Please help be circumvent my license" which I doubt you'll get
support for here.
Chris.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:22 AM, samir khodair <s.khodair@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
>
> has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
>
> thanks for your support
>
> --
> Samir Khodair
>
> MAXIMO Engineer
>
>
>
>
>
Depending on what you want your operators to do with Maximo, you may want to ask your IBM rep about Service Requester licenses. We purchased Service Requester licenses at a very low cost for our operators. They can each use their own sign-on to write service requests recommending work.
One of the managers (who has a full Maximo license) reviews the service requests and approves or denies them. If he approves a request, he creates a work order from the service request, prints it as a paper form, and distributes it to the appropriate person to do the work.
After the work is completed, the paper is returned to a data entry clerk (also a full Maximo user) for data entry.
I realize that this is not the most elegant solution in the world, but it fits within the license agreement, keeps track of work, and maintains the data and costs that are important to management.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
>
>
>
> has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
>
> thanks for your support
>
> --
> Samir Khodair
>
> MAXIMO Engineer
>
>
>
>
I would recommend you to build a simple web page that will communicate with Maximo (WebService/Interface tables) and create corresponding records (e.g. Work Orders).
We've done this for our operators. As well as WO details we also send their UserID in ReportedBy field. In this case maximo users know who created a WO.
And don't play with license agreement. It doesn't worse it.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
>
>
>
> has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
>
> thanks for your support
>
> --
> Samir Khodair
>
> MAXIMO Engineer
>
>
>
>
Hi Charis,
really i am not interested at all to violate the IBM agreement , the easy way to violate it by creating new users more than the agreement which is not acceptable , but we looking for a way to follow the agreement and trace the person transactions
thanks
Samir
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawlessc@...> wrote:
>
> Are you really expecting people to make recommendations on how you can
> violate your license agreement in a global, public support forum? Do you
> feel that the approach you suggest is in some way more legitimate than
> creating more users than you are licensed for? On the surface this question
> reads as "Please help be circumvent my license" which I doubt you'll get
> support for here.
>
> Chris.
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:22 AM, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> > users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> > account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came from
> > the management can we develop a new filed in each application or something
> > else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
> >
> > has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
> >
> > thanks for your support
> >
> > --
> > Samir Khodair
> >
> > MAXIMO Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Samir,
The key element as Alain says below is that you need to understand the
intent of the license agreement and whether what you do is violating it.
Software license agreements are structured such that saying that you only
have one ID is not enough, you need to comply with the terms of the
agreement. As has been mentioned there are different license types to allow
for users who do not need full Maximo access and can be implemented more
cheaply if the users are just creating service requests etc. however using
one ID for multiple people to use more extensive functions of Maximo would
in my opinion be a violation of your license terms. These issues are very
real, I have worked with clients who have been audited and have had to may
large penalties for violating the terms of their license agreement even
when it has been accidental.
If you want a way to get requests in to Maximo look at using web services,
work request licenses and the email listener but you need to understand
that all of these require a license of some type. The penalties associated
with breaching your license are significant and the chances of getting
audited are increased if you publish your intent to do so in a public forum
that is accessed by personnel from the software vendor.
Talk to your IBM representative and either adjust your usage to match your
license or add licenses to cover the required usage, it's just a question
of value, if your use of Maximo is important enough it will justify the
costs, if it is not then don't do it.
Just my $0.02...
Chris.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:42 PM, al_potanin <spivot@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> I would recommend you to build a simple web page that will communicate
> with Maximo (WebService/Interface tables) and create corresponding records
> (e.g. Work Orders).
>
> We've done this for our operators. As well as WO details we also send
> their UserID in ReportedBy field. In this case maximo users know who
> created a WO.
>
> And don't play with license agreement. It doesn't worse it.
>
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between multiple
> > users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> > account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came
> from
> > the management can we develop a new filed in each application or
> something
> > else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
> >
> >
> >
> > has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
> >
> > thanks for your support
> >
> > --
> > Samir Khodair
> >
> > MAXIMO Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Good thought Chris, but the easiest way to understand this, was when IBM
bought MRO software, they changed the Licensing to Named Users, instead of
Concurrent Users. The key here is NAMED USER LICENSE. I thought it
sucked, but that's just they way it is..
My 2 cents..
Brian Swanson
Systems Analyst-Maximo
Information Technology
HermanMiller
From: Chris Lawless <lawlessc@gmail.com>
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Date: 12/23/2011 08:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MAXIMO List] Re: shared logins tracking
Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Samir,
The key element as Alain says below is that you need to understand the
intent of the license agreement and whether what you do is violating it.
Software license agreements are structured such that saying that you only
have one ID is not enough, you need to comply with the terms of the
agreement. As has been mentioned there are different license types to
allow
for users who do not need full Maximo access and can be implemented more
cheaply if the users are just creating service requests etc. however using
one ID for multiple people to use more extensive functions of Maximo would
in my opinion be a violation of your license terms. These issues are very
real, I have worked with clients who have been audited and have had to may
large penalties for violating the terms of their license agreement even
when it has been accidental.
If you want a way to get requests in to Maximo look at using web services,
work request licenses and the email listener but you need to understand
that all of these require a license of some type. The penalties associated
with breaching your license are significant and the chances of getting
audited are increased if you publish your intent to do so in a public
forum
that is accessed by personnel from the software vendor.
Talk to your IBM representative and either adjust your usage to match your
license or add licenses to cover the required usage, it's just a question
of value, if your use of Maximo is important enough it will justify the
costs, if it is not then don't do it.
Just my $0.02...
Chris.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:42 PM, al_potanin <spivot@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> I would recommend you to build a simple web page that will communicate
> with Maximo (WebService/Interface tables) and create corresponding
records
> (e.g. Work Orders).
>
> We've done this for our operators. As well as WO details we also send
> their UserID in ReportedBy field. In this case maximo users know who
> created a WO.
>
> And don't play with license agreement. It doesn't worse it.
>
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, samir khodair <s.khodair@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Due to license issue we are willing to share one login between
multiple
> > users , for example all the operators (7 persons ) will use the same
> > account (user name & password at login screen ) And the question came
> from
> > the management can we develop a new filed in each application or
> something
> > else to force the login person to put his name and password ??
> >
> >
> >
> > has anyone ahs any experince with this issue before ?
> >
> > thanks for your support
> >
> > --
> > Samir Khodair
> >
> > MAXIMO Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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