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Prevent single asset in a location from being automatically populated?

From: haiyanchen (2012-05-08 00:09)

Hello,
We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a location which has only one asset, that single asset will be automatically inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if it is automatically populated.
Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration is more preferred.


From: Thomas (2012-05-08 12:38)

IBM claims its a feature not a bug.
We created dummy assets so that there are two assets at the location. The Down side of that is that you have a bunch of fake assets that you will never use. Upside it won't automatically add the wrong asset.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, "haiyanchen" <chenthy@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a location which has only one asset, that single asset will be automatically inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
>
> We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if it is automatically populated.
>
> Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
>
> I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration is more preferred.
>


From: Shannon Sutton (2012-05-08 08:42)

There is a class file associated with workorder.location.. I would assume
the class file needs to be edited to take away this functionality..





From: "Thomas" <tcoulomb@scgov.net>
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Date: 05/08/2012 08:38 AM
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
automatically populated?
Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com






IBM claims its a feature not a bug.
We created dummy assets so that there are two assets at the location. The
Down side of that is that you have a bunch of fake assets that you will
never use. Upside it won't automatically add the wrong asset.

--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, "haiyanchen" <chenthy@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
location which has only one asset, that single asset will be automatically
inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
>
> We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
it is automatically populated.
>
> Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
>
> I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
is more preferred.
>




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From: Shannon Sutton (2012-05-08 08:51)

Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains.. Running
some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the location
pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the single
asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to make
sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..



Shannon Sutton
CMMS Specialist
EMCOR Government Services
Office: 571-403-8940
Cell: 571-970-7965




From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@gmail.com>
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
automatically populated?
Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com






Hello,

We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
location which has only one asset, that single asset will be automatically
inserted in the SR or WO asset field.

We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
it is automatically populated.

Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?

I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration is
more preferred.




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From: andrew.tess (2012-05-08 15:26)

Shannon,
There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
The link to the rfe is:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
Please help us get this in,
Thanks,
Andy
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains.. Running
> some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the location
> pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the single
> asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to make
> sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
> location which has only one asset, that single asset will be automatically
> inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
>
> We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
> it is automatically populated.
>
> Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
>
> I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration is
> more preferred.
>
>
>
>
> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential,
> proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege
> is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,
> please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any
> hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly,
> use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are
> not the intended recipient.
>


From: Shannon Sutton (2012-05-08 11:48)

Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree with
the functionality as it stands today...



Shannon Sutton
CMMS Specialist
EMCOR Government Services
Office: 571-403-8940
Cell: 571-970-7965




From: "andrew.tess" <atess@hdsmail.ucsd.edu>
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
automatically populated?
Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com






Shannon,
There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
The link to the rfe is:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811

This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
Please help us get this in,
Thanks,
Andy

--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains.. Running
> some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
location
> pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
single
> asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to make
> sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
> location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
automatically
> inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
>
> We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
> it is automatically populated.
>
> Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
>
> I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
is
> more preferred.
>
>
>
>
> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
confidential,
> proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or
privilege
> is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in
error,
> please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system,
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are
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From: in2data (2012-05-08 16:46)

Hi,
I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an option to not do this they can probably make that happen.
Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?
You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders (locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an asset but have not thought of any yet.
For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate, signage and signals.
Dave Bone
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree with
> the functionality as it stands today...
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "andrew.tess" <atess@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon,
> There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> The link to the rfe is:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
>
> This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> Please help us get this in,
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains.. Running
> > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> location
> > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> single
> > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to make
> > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > automatically populated?
> > Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
> > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> automatically
> > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> >
> > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
> > it is automatically populated.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> >
> > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> is
> > more preferred.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
> confidential,
> > proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or
> privilege
> > is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in
> error,
> > please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system,
> destroy any
> > hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or
> indirectly,
> > use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you
> are
> > not the intended recipient.
> >
>
>
>
>
> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential,
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From: Kevin Egolf (2012-05-08 13:11)

It really depends on the established business process. Our users primarily
maintain facilities. For whatever reason they originally set the buildings
up as a location not an asset. they then associate assets with the building.
A lot of the buildings (locations) only have a single asset (an air
conditioner) associate with them. In our case they do not want the asset to
default on the work order when the location is selected. Probably not the
best way to set things up but it has been this way a long time and is not
about to change now.

While I agree with Shannon and Dave I think that having an option would go a
long way towards satisfying everyone's requirements. It would be nice if
there was a choice for setting it at the org or location level.

Kevin


From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
in2data
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47 PM
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
automatically populated?


Hi,
I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking
an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an
option to not do this they can probably make that happen.
Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?
You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders
(locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm
trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an
asset but have not thought of any yet.
For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a
location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate,
signage and signals.
Dave Bone
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
Sutton <ssutton@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree with
> the functionality as it stands today...
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "andrew.tess" <atess@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon,
> There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> The link to the rfe is:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe
<http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811>
&CR_ID=16811
>
> This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> Please help us get this in,
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains..
Running
> > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> location
> > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> single
> > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to
make
> > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > automatically populated?
> > Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on
a
> > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> automatically
> > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> >
> > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset
if
> > it is automatically populated.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> >
> > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> is
> > more preferred.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
> confidential,
> > proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or
> privilege
> > is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in
> error,
> > please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system,
> destroy any
> > hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or
> indirectly,
> > use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if
you
> are
> > not the intended recipient.
> >
>
>
>
>
> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
confidential,
> proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or
privilege
> is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in
error,
> please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system,
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> hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or
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From: Shannon Sutton (2012-05-08 13:17)

To me there is an option.. From my testing today you could simply remove
the class file from the workorder.location field..



Shannon Sutton
CMMS Specialist
EMCOR Government Services
Office: 571-403-8940
Cell: 571-970-7965




From: Kevin Egolf <kegolf@techopsolutions.net>
To: <MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 05/08/2012 01:12 PM
Subject: RE: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from
being automatically populated?
Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com






It really depends on the established business process. Our users primarily
maintain facilities. For whatever reason they originally set the buildings
up as a location not an asset. they then associate assets with the
building.
A lot of the buildings (locations) only have a single asset (an air
conditioner) associate with them. In our case they do not want the asset to
default on the work order when the location is selected. Probably not the
best way to set things up but it has been this way a long time and is not
about to change now.

While I agree with Shannon and Dave I think that having an option would go
a
long way towards satisfying everyone's requirements. It would be nice if
there was a choice for setting it at the org or location level.

Kevin

From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
in2data
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47 PM
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
automatically populated?

Hi,

I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking
an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an
option to not do this they can probably make that happen.

Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?

You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders
(locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm
trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an
asset but have not thought of any yet.

For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a
location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate,
signage and signals.

Dave Bone

--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
Sutton <ssutton@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree
with
> the functionality as it stands today...
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "andrew.tess" <atess@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon,
> There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> The link to the rfe is:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe
<http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
>
&CR_ID=16811
>
> This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> Please help us get this in,
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains..
Running
> > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> location
> > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> single
> > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to
make
> > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > automatically populated?
> > Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on
a
> > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> automatically
> > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> >
> > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset
if
> > it is automatically populated.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> >
> > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> is
> > more preferred.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
> confidential,
> > proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or
> privilege
> > is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message
in
> error,
> > please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system,
> destroy any
> > hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or
> indirectly,
> > use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if
you
> are
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From: Sean Clark-McCarthy (2012-05-08 18:12)

Actually I see this a lot in a Facilities Maintenance space. For example, I have a work order to replace a light bulb because an office is dark. An organization might not necessarily want to track the specific light assembly as an asset because it never moves and considered an expendable inventory item. If it's broken where just a light bulb won't fix it, I order or grab a new assembly from the warehouse and replace it. They might not want to track the light as a location because they don't really care to go that far down the rabbit hole. Could you imagine just the light inventory on a building like the Empire State Building?
So they put the work order on the location OFF123 - Light is out in room. The room may have only a single asset in it for example an Air Handler Unit which does have PM's for inspection and filter replacement periodically, those are tracked at the asset level. It could have multiple assets, such as company owned furniture, cubicles, computer, monitor, etc. You may have a work order to paint a room. Doesn't have anything to do with any asset and the room itself again isn't considered an asset, so it's left to just the location.
--- Sean Clark-McCarthy
From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of in2data
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47 PM
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being automatically populated?
Hi,
I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an option to not do this they can probably make that happen.
Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?
You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders (locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an asset but have not thought of any yet.
For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate, signage and signals.
Dave Bone
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@...<mailto:ssutton@...>> wrote:
>
> Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree with
> the functionality as it stands today...
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "andrew.tess" <atess@...<mailto:atess@...>>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon,
> There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> The link to the rfe is:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
>
> This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> Please help us get this in,
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains.. Running
> > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> location
> > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> single
> > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to make
> > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > automatically populated?
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
> > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> automatically
> > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> >
> > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
> > it is automatically populated.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> >
> > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> is
> > more preferred.
> >
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From: John (2012-05-08 19:47)

In addition to what Sean said,
many facilities only track Location record to the entire building. I know this is blasphemy but various sites do things differently.
Their scenario is as follows:
~~~ For whatever reason they do not want to go any lower than Building number.
~~~ And, they do not have Asset records identified for these minor "components" [although a Boiler would be a valid Asset].
~~~ And, they have an asset record title "GENERAL" and when this is chosen then the below fields are mandatory.
So what they have done isÂ….. added new fields to Work Order main titled:
Floor: ____ [validated list linked to building in other app]
Room: _____ [validated list linked to floor-in-building in other app]
Manufacturer: ________ [from Company table]
Serial: _______
And, this work can be categorized using Classifications and/or Failure/Problem codes.
The above combination of entries enables this user community to perform more-than-adequate failure analysis and costing.
Imagine the followingÂ…..
1) [Work order description] Door Closure Device is not working. Door slams.
2) Location: Building
3) Floor: 2nd
4) Room: 1025A
5) Classification: Door \ Closure
6) Problem Code: Door slams
7) Number on Door: 1
8) Manufacturer: 1013 (Smith Doors)
The purchasing department keeps buying these cheaper door closures and the of expectancy is short, and maintenance wants to track this via reporting.
So, in short, they designed the system to meet value-add reporting requirements to support failure trending.
w/br
j.r.


From: in2data (2012-05-08 20:08)

Hi,
Like you say it's a choice to be made. But...
The example you used of room locations is actually a perfect example of why you do need to always work on assets not locations even if the only asset in the location is the actual room asset. If I were maintaining the Empire State building I would definitely want to know the costs for each room especially if I'm leasing out those rooms. Assets collect labor and material costs not locations.
In your example you said the only asset in the room is the HVAC but then listed several assets. You could track moving those items in and out of locations using assets. For IT assets maybe you also need to track the software so you can see when it needs to be updated?
For your painting example the location would not collect the labor costs which are going to be much more than the material costs.
I actually had a company pay me a lot of money for some custom reports in Maximo 4.1.1 so they could track costs based on locations because they had not set up assets properly. The company was in the business of managing very large office buildings and had no idea what the comparable costs for like asset types were for each building. Eventually I convinced them to set up assets properly and start collecting good data.
Dave Bone
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Sean Clark-McCarthy <smccarthy@...> wrote:
>
> Actually I see this a lot in a Facilities Maintenance space. For example, I have a work order to replace a light bulb because an office is dark. An organization might not necessarily want to track the specific light assembly as an asset because it never moves and considered an expendable inventory item. If it's broken where just a light bulb won't fix it, I order or grab a new assembly from the warehouse and replace it. They might not want to track the light as a location because they don't really care to go that far down the rabbit hole. Could you imagine just the light inventory on a building like the Empire State Building?
>
> So they put the work order on the location OFF123 - Light is out in room. The room may have only a single asset in it for example an Air Handler Unit which does have PM's for inspection and filter replacement periodically, those are tracked at the asset level. It could have multiple assets, such as company owned furniture, cubicles, computer, monitor, etc. You may have a work order to paint a room. Doesn't have anything to do with any asset and the room itself again isn't considered an asset, so it's left to just the location.
>
> --- Sean Clark-McCarthy
>
> From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of in2data
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47 PM
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being automatically populated?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an option to not do this they can probably make that happen.
>
> Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?
>
> You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders (locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an asset but have not thought of any yet.
>
> For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate, signage and signals.
>
> Dave Bone
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@<mailto:ssutton@>> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree with
> > the functionality as it stands today...
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "andrew.tess" <atess@<mailto:atess@>>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > automatically populated?
> > Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon,
> > There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> > configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> > enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> > help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> > The link to the rfe is:
> > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
> >
> > This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> > Please help us get this in,
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>, Shannon Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains.. Running
> > > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> > location
> > > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> > single
> > > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to make
> > > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shannon Sutton
> > > CMMS Specialist
> > > EMCOR Government Services
> > > Office: 571-403-8940
> > > Cell: 571-970-7965
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com<mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > > automatically populated?
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on a
> > > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> > automatically
> > > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> > >
> > > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset if
> > > it is automatically populated.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> > >
> > > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> > is
> > > more preferred.
> > >
> > >
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From: Hanna, Christopher CTR (2012-05-09 07:42)

I would think removing a reference to a native class file is a dangerous game. How do you know all the functionality that is implemented in that class file? The JavaDocs give some insight and you can test, but in the end, you are left with just an educated guess. Furthermore, even if you know what it does today, how do you know what it is supposed to do when you apply the next hot fix. Removing it, you've obligated yourself to test with and without every time you apply a new patch. You would be better to extend the class and suppress only the functionality that you actually intend to suppress. Simply removing the class removes everything it does.

In general, this is the sort of customization that when my users ask for, I recommend against. I don't like suppressing native functionality. I don't always win that argument, but I make it none the less.

-Chris H

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To me there is an option.. From my testing today you could simply remove the class file from the workorder.location field..



Shannon Sutton
CMMS Specialist
EMCOR Government Services
Office: 571-403-8940
Cell: 571-970-7965




From: Kevin Egolf <kegolf@techopsolutions.net <mailto:kegolf%40techopsolutions.net> >
To: <MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: 05/08/2012 01:12 PM
Subject: RE: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from
being automatically populated?
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It really depends on the established business process. Our users primarily
maintain facilities. For whatever reason they originally set the buildings
up as a location not an asset. they then associate assets with the
building.
A lot of the buildings (locations) only have a single asset (an air
conditioner) associate with them. In our case they do not want the asset to
default on the work order when the location is selected. Probably not the
best way to set things up but it has been this way a long time and is not
about to change now.

While I agree with Shannon and Dave I think that having an option would go
a
long way towards satisfying everyone's requirements. It would be nice if
there was a choice for setting it at the org or location level.

Kevin

From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47 PM
To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
automatically populated?

Hi,

I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking
an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an
option to not do this they can probably make that happen.

Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?

You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders
(locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm
trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an
asset but have not thought of any yet.

For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a
location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate,
signage and signals.

Dave Bone

--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
Sutton <ssutton@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree
with
> the functionality as it stands today...
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: "andrew.tess" <atess@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon,
> There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> The link to the rfe is:
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe
<http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
>
&CR_ID=16811
>
> This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> Please help us get this in,
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains..
Running
> > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> location
> > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> single
> > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to
make
> > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on
a
> > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> automatically
> > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> >
> > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset
if
> > it is automatically populated.
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> >
> > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> is
> > more preferred.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: andrew.tess (2012-07-19 21:13)

All,
IBM has just spoken on how to accomplish this with out code https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/a9ba1efe-b731-4317-9724-a181d6155e3a/entry/how_to_prevent_the_asset_location_from_automatically_populating_in_work_order_and_ticket_based_applications_when_entering_one_or_the_other3?lang=en
Or if you cant read the site:
Maximo has a feature where the system automatically populates the asset when a user enters a location or populates the location when a user enters an asset in the ticket or work order based applications. This is a feature most clients wanted, but there are some clients, who don't want to use this feature. Instead they want to disable this feature, but currently Maximo does not have a built in switch to disable that.
The following is a work around solution which can disable this feature by using Maximo's Cross Over Domains.
First we need to make sure the source table LOCATIONS or ASSET object has a NULL value attribute which can be used to cross over to the asset or location attribute in the target WORKORDER or TICKET object. Then we'll add the crossover field to the existing crossover on location or asset attribute. You can find the domain name in the Database Configuration app by bringing up the target object WORKORDER or TICKET. In the attribute tab, then select the location or asset attribute, where you will see the domain name in the domain field. The following shows the step by step instructions for a user who enters a location, but wants to disable the automatic population of the asset field in the work order based applications. If you wish to disable the location from auto populating when entering the asset field or ticket object, you will need to change the source object, target object and attribute name in Step-1, Step-3 and Step-4.
Step-1: Go To -->System Configuration -->Platform Configuration-->Database Configuration.
Filter the source Location object and add a new attribute "NULLASSET" as ALN and length as 1 and save the change.
Step-2: Turn Admin mode on and apply the configuration changes.
Step-3: Go To--> System Configuration-->Platform Configuration-->Database Configuration.
Filter the target WORKORDER object and in the attributes tab, filter the crossover trigger attribute " LOCATION", write down the domain name LOCATIONCROSSCI.
Step-4: Go To -->System Configuration -->Platform Configuration--> Domains.
Filter the "LOCATIONCROSSCI" domain.
1. Click the dialog icon to bring up the Crossover fields dialog.
2. In the crossover fields table window, click new row button to add a new row.
3. Select Source as "NULLASSET", target as "ASSETNUM" & make sure "Accept null value" is checked and Save it.
Step-5: Turn Admin mode off.
Run the following test to see if it's working as expected:
1. Go to the Work order tracking application.
2. In the location field, enter a location containing an asset.
3. Notice, the asset field should not get populated.
I am going to test in test today and will let everyone how it goes.
Andy
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, "Hanna, Christopher CTR" <christopher.a.hanna@...> wrote:
>
> I would think removing a reference to a native class file is a dangerous game. How do you know all the functionality that is implemented in that class file? The JavaDocs give some insight and you can test, but in the end, you are left with just an educated guess. Furthermore, even if you know what it does today, how do you know what it is supposed to do when you apply the next hot fix. Removing it, you've obligated yourself to test with and without every time you apply a new patch. You would be better to extend the class and suppress only the functionality that you actually intend to suppress. Simply removing the class removes everything it does.
>
> In general, this is the sort of customization that when my users ask for, I recommend against. I don't like suppressing native functionality. I don't always win that argument, but I make it none the less.
>
> -Chris H
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Sutton
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:18 PM
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being automatically populated?
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>
> To me there is an option.. From my testing today you could simply remove the class file from the workorder.location field..
>
>
>
> Shannon Sutton
> CMMS Specialist
> EMCOR Government Services
> Office: 571-403-8940
> Cell: 571-970-7965
>
>
>
>
> From: Kevin Egolf <kegolf@... <mailto:kegolf%40techopsolutions.net> >
> To: <MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Date: 05/08/2012 01:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from
> being automatically populated?
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
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>
> It really depends on the established business process. Our users primarily
> maintain facilities. For whatever reason they originally set the buildings
> up as a location not an asset. they then associate assets with the
> building.
> A lot of the buildings (locations) only have a single asset (an air
> conditioner) associate with them. In our case they do not want the asset to
> default on the work order when the location is selected. Probably not the
> best way to set things up but it has been this way a long time and is not
> about to change now.
>
> While I agree with Shannon and Dave I think that having an option would go
> a
> long way towards satisfying everyone's requirements. It would be nice if
> there was a choice for setting it at the org or location level.
>
> Kevin
>
> From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> in2data
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47 PM
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> automatically populated?
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree with Shannon it works as it should. It saves the users time picking
> an asset when there is only one asset in the location. But if you want an
> option to not do this they can probably make that happen.
>
> Why would you not want it to not default to the asset?
>
> You work on assets not locations. You can think of locations like folders
> (locations) for files (assets). You work on the files not the folders. I'm
> trying to think of an instance when you would work on a location not an
> asset but have not thought of any yet.
>
> For a linear asset like a road you might use the mileage from X to Y as a
> location. In that location could be several assets pavement, sub-strate,
> signage and signals.
>
> Dave Bone
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
> Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry I have been in this argument many times, and I personally agree
> with
> > the functionality as it stands today...
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon Sutton
> > CMMS Specialist
> > EMCOR Government Services
> > Office: 571-403-8940
> > Cell: 571-970-7965
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "andrew.tess" <atess@>
> > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 05/08/2012 11:26 AM
> > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > automatically populated?
> > Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon,
> > There is a group of maximo users that is pushing for this. Or at least a
> > configuration option at the org or site level. In the RFE (request for
> > enhancement) site on developerworks there is already a rfe there. Please
> > help us get this in by voting for the RFE.
> > The link to the rfe is:
> > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe
> <http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=16811
> >
> &CR_ID=16811
> >
> > This is something that has been in maximo for a while.
> > Please help us get this in,
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> , Shannon
> Sutton <ssutton@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure how clean this is, but remove the class file from the
> > > workorder.location and it seems to work without pulling over the single
> > > location.. Again i am not sure what all the class file contains..
> Running
> > > some test i am able to create a workorder, add a location and the
> > location
> > > pulls over the location description..etc.. but doesn't pull over the
> > single
> > > asset.. So this maybe an option you want to do mkore testing with to
> make
> > > sure it will work without breaking any other functionality..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shannon Sutton
> > > CMMS Specialist
> > > EMCOR Government Services
> > > Office: 571-403-8940
> > > Cell: 571-970-7965
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "haiyanchen" <chenthy@>
> > > To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: 05/07/2012 08:09 PM
> > > Subject: [MAXIMO List] Prevent single asset in a location from being
> > > automatically populated?
> > > Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MAXIMO%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We use Maximo 7.5 and when we create a Service Request or Work Order on
> a
> > > location which has only one asset, that single asset will be
> > automatically
> > > inserted in the SR or WO asset field.
> > >
> > > We currently instruct the users to watch for that and remove the asset
> if
> > > it is automatically populated.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to prevent this out of box behavior?
> > >
> > > I am thinking of using automatic script to to that, but a configuration
> > is
> > > more preferred.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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