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We're looking at adding a field to reference the MCC bucket ID number to Maximo to help with LO/TO. Internal debate is between associating MCC ID to Asset or Location record.
What are your arguments for one versus the other?
Motor Control Center:
A Motor Control Center is a modular cabinet system for powering and controlling motors in a factory. Several MCCs in a factory may be powered from a main switchgear which in turn gets its power from a transformer attached to the incoming line from the power company. MCCs are very common sights in factories with heavy machinery, although the purpose they serve is changing.
A typical MCC cabinet is a grey NEMA 12 enclosure (although higher NEMA ratings are available for harsher environments) with a number of small doors arranged in rows and columns along the front and flat, mostly featureless back and sides. Behind each door is a unit called a bucket which connects the electrical devices inside to the electrical bus bars behind it. An MCC with only one column of buckets is called a single-section MCC.
Very often in the US there will be three bus bars to carry three-phase, 480 Volt, 60Hz electricity. The buckets are intended to contain a circuit breaker, a motor starter, and a control power transformer, although their actual contents will vary widely according to the factory's needs. The circuit breaker will have a handle that goes through the door to shut off the power without opening it.
Several years ago, MCCs housed almost all the control for motors in an industrial setting. The trend lately, however, has been to use the MCC only to provide points from which to distribute power to electrical panels. In this case, the MCC bucket will have only a circuit breaker and a handle to shut the circuit breaker off; the electrical panel would be a separate enclosure which houses all the motor control for a specific machine. The power and popularity of programmable logic controllers for control and the size of high-horsepower variable frequency drives have contributed to this trend, as they do not fit in a standard MCC very well. As long as those are going into a separate enclosure, why not put everything there?
Therefore I would say it's a location it fits the criteria for a location and would also allow you to link it into a location hierarchy other than "primary" i.e. "electrical Distribution" . The asset might also move location i.e. a motor is swapped from one line to another so to associate an isolation component with the asset is positively dangerous
Rgds Ian
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We're looking at adding a field to reference the MCC bucket ID number to Maximo to help with LO/TO. Internal debate is between associating MCC ID to Asset or Location record.
What are your arguments for one versus the other?
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Also why add a field just create a classification then you can add unlimited fields and domains
Rgds Ian
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Subject: [MAXIMO List] Opinion poll - MCC ID assoicated with Asset or Location
We're looking at adding a field to reference the MCC bucket ID number to Maximo to help with LO/TO. Internal debate is between associating MCC ID to Asset or Location record.
What are your arguments for one versus the other?
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We have not used classifications to a great degree, so using them is not in our culture... yet.
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we have MCC's as assets, they get PM'ed and occasionally need repair. we make reference to their end-service in both 'specifications' and in the asset desciption. Our MCC's will never move nor will their assetnum ever change so even though their service can change we can update that through our references. If placed correctly in the asset hierarchy they will show properly in a drilldown. This has worked fine for us for almost 20 years. And as an asset we have failure analysis capabilities. (we're still on v4.1.1, pretty old school technology here). Dallas
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> We're looking at adding a field to reference the MCC bucket ID number to Maximo to help with LO/TO. Internal debate is between associating MCC ID to Asset or Location record.
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> What are your arguments for one versus the other?
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Been a few years since I was involved in manufacturing and this was accomplished with 4.1n.
We had machining cells comprised of multiple pieces of equipment. We designated the cell as a location and the machines were assets.
Each entity (asset and location) had its own LO/TO procedures.
We also had a process where each year we would print out work orders with attached documents (the paper procedures) for the designated folks to review and update. That also gave us an electronic means to track changes, LOTO training and compliance.
Wes Williams
http://www.weswilliams.net
http://www.williamsconnell.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:33 AM
Subject: [MAXIMO List] Opinion poll - MCC ID assoicated with Asset or Location
We're looking at adding a field to reference the MCC bucket ID number to Maximo to help with LO/TO. Internal debate is between associating MCC ID to Asset or Location record.
What are your arguments for one versus the other?
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> We're looking at adding a field to reference the MCC bucket ID number to Maximo to help with LO/TO. Internal debate is between associating MCC ID to Asset or Location record.
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> What are your arguments for one versus the other?
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We do almost the same thing as Bid D with the exception that we add a asset number to each MCC cabinet and to each bucket, making the buckets as a child of the MCC. That way we can add a Lo/To procedure to each bucket and document/update any changes to that bucket.
Dave