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I am curious what others do for the corrective follow up work order to a PM. For example, an IR inspection (PM) finds a loose wire on a starter, so a follow up work order is generated for an electrician to fix the loose connection. What is the work order type on the corrective follow up - is it PM because that's what found the problem or CM because it's corrective maintenance?
I have my opinion, but would like to hear what others are doing. Thanks.
I've always gone down the route of CM for follow-up work since it is taking a new corrective action and can be tracked independently for failure analysis. The question that really comes out of this is, what "qualifies" as follow up work? Some organizations I've worked with say anything that is not explicitly called out to do on the PM, others say, if it's a quick fix and doesn't need to be noted anyway other than a comment, no follow up.
--- Sean Clark-McCarthy
From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Verly
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I am curious what others do for the corrective follow up work order to a PM. For example, an IR inspection (PM) finds a loose wire on a starter, so a follow up work order is generated for an electrician to fix the loose connection. What is the work order type on the corrective follow up - is it PM because that's what found the problem or CM because it's corrective maintenance?
I have my opinion, but would like to hear what others are doing. Thanks.
We make a distinction between safety critical PM's and normal PM's
Normal PM's get CM followups and safety critical get PSC's (performance standards corrective) nobody wants to see PSC !!
Rgds Ian
From: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Clark-McCarthy
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I've always gone down the route of CM for follow-up work since it is taking a new corrective action and can be tracked independently for failure analysis. The question that really comes out of this is, what "qualifies" as follow up work? Some organizations I've worked with say anything that is not explicitly called out to do on the PM, others say, if it's a quick fix and doesn't need to be noted anyway other than a comment, no follow up.
--- Sean Clark-McCarthy
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I am curious what others do for the corrective follow up work order to a PM. For example, an IR inspection (PM) finds a loose wire on a starter, so a follow up work order is generated for an electrician to fix the loose connection. What is the work order type on the corrective follow up - is it PM because that's what found the problem or CM because it's corrective maintenance?
I have my opinion, but would like to hear what others are doing. Thanks.
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We have created a separate work type of "PPR" (Proactive Preventive Repair) which is a work order written specifically as a follow up to a PM type (any variation) work order to initiate repair discovered during the performance of a PM. A PPR work order shall be generated when the scope of the originating PM does not covered required repairs. This allows us to query on the work type of PPR periodically to review these work order and improve our Job Plans and PM program.
We have added a check box to address "Safety" work and "Critical Control Devices" rather than create separate work types.
Also "Emergency" and "Unscheduled" work orders are priorities, not work types for us.
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We make a distinction between safety critical PM's and normal PM's
Normal PM's get CM followups and safety critical get PSC's (performance standards corrective) nobody wants to see PSC !!
Rgds Ian
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I've always gone down the route of CM for follow-up work since it is taking a new corrective action and can be tracked independently for failure analysis. The question that really comes out of this is, what "qualifies" as follow up work? Some organizations I've worked with say anything that is not explicitly called out to do on the PM, others say, if it's a quick fix and doesn't need to be noted anyway other than a comment, no follow up.
--- Sean Clark-McCarthy
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Subject: [MAXIMO List] What WO type do you use for followup work?
I am curious what others do for the corrective follow up work order to a PM. For example, an IR inspection (PM) finds a loose wire on a starter, so a follow up work order is generated for an electrician to fix the loose connection. What is the work order type on the corrective follow up - is it PM because that's what found the problem or CM because it's corrective maintenance?
I have my opinion, but would like to hear what others are doing. Thanks.
GDF SUEZ E&P UK Ltd (Company Number 3386464), registered in England and Wales with a registered office address at: 40 Holborn Viaduct, London, EC1N 2PB.
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In my experience, as a rule of thumb, if the repair takes more than an hour, create a CM work order for it. If not, include it on the PM. Reports should show costs on equipment whether it is PM or CM - for decision making information.
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> I am curious what others do for the corrective follow up work order to a PM. For example, an IR inspection (PM) finds a loose wire on a starter, so a follow up work order is generated for an electrician to fix the loose connection. What is the work order type on the corrective follow up - is it PM because that's what found the problem or CM because it's corrective maintenance?
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> I have my opinion, but would like to hear what others are doing. Thanks.
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Most of our PM's are routed (many pieces of equipment on one workorder) so making corrections on the PM workorder we would lose the ability to track against specific assets. So we have the mechanic 'FAIL' the asset (with a specific problem code) and then a CM workorder is cut for that asset. They are 'follow-ups' to the PM workorder. Works great for us, very simple, not alot of additional worktypes to query for later. Sorry we're old-school V4.1.1
Dallas
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Sean Clark-McCarthy <smccarthy@...> wrote:
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> I've always gone down the route of CM for follow-up work since it is taking a new corrective action and can be tracked independently for failure analysis. The question that really comes out of this is, what "qualifies" as follow up work? Some organizations I've worked with say anything that is not explicitly called out to do on the PM, others say, if it's a quick fix and doesn't need to be noted anyway other than a comment, no follow up.
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:56 PM
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MAXIMO List] What WO type do you use for followup work?
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> I am curious what others do for the corrective follow up work order to a PM. For example, an IR inspection (PM) finds a loose wire on a starter, so a follow up work order is generated for an electrician to fix the loose connection. What is the work order type on the corrective follow up - is it PM because that's what found the problem or CM because it's corrective maintenance?
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