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Is a Maximo user assigned an express license able to be license compliant and still approve a record, such as a PR, via workflow rather than using the app 'change status'?
My initial reasonableness test was "yes" - it is simply another way of executing the PR change status.
But then I read this doc which states that you cannot give an express license user the standard PR screen. It states you must clone the PR app and remove the 'save' icon so they can only execute the change status and save without using the save button.
IBM Monitor license type by user. - United States http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436
IBM Monitor license type by user. - United States http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436 App Description ACTIVITY Read, Save (without Save button), Change Status, Run Reports AMCREW Read, Save (without Save button), Change Status, Run Reports AMCREWT
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Richard
Sounds like a good question for Steve Hume. Copying him...
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Is a Maximo user assigned an express license able to be license compliant and still approve a record, such as a PR, via workflow rather than using the app 'change status'?
My initial reasonableness test was "yes" - it is simply another way of executing the PR change status.
But then I read this doc which states that you cannot give an express license user the standard PR screen. It states you must clone the PR app and remove the 'save' icon so they can only execute the change status and save without using the save button.
IBM Monitor license type by user. - United States http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436
IBM Monitor license type by user. - United States http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436 App Description ACTIVITY Read, Save (without Save button), Change Status, Run Reports AMCREW Read, Save (without Save button), Change Status, Run Reports AMCREWT
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Has anyone tackled this one with IBM ?
thanks,
Richard
That makes no sense. My understanding of the license is the same as yours,
and was gained from material directly obtained from IBM. The gist, as you
say, is that approving records is fine, as long as they don't change them.
So this article is saying, essentially: if you want actually use that
license type, you have to clone all the apps?
Workflow approvals, if done via a task node, use MAXADMIN rights - in other
words, workflow trumps security. Consequently, the user does NOT need
rights to approve the PR via the Toolbar or Select Action menu, and can
still approve a record via workflow. (Note: the exception to the "workflow
trumps security" rule is interactive nodes, which use the user's security
rights. Source: Pam Denny, personal conversation, at Pulse.) I currently
have a client where the users can cancel a PR via the Cancel Button, but
have to approve via workflow.
Moreover: in older versions, that you could give a user Change Status
rights WITHOUT giving them Save rights. However, I just tried that, and it
looks like that's been changed. I suspect it was changed by someone who
didn't know what they were doing, but I can't prove it. (Occasionally
someone tries to make workflow subordinate to security too, but that always
gets fixed).
IMHO, I've seen a few articles lately on the KB that lack common sense or,
frankly, in some cases reveal a limited knowledge of Maximo functionality.
It bothers me that someone more knowledgeable isn't reviewing these before
they go out as official KB documents.
(If anyone from IBM is reading this - sorry, guys, but that's what I'm
seeing. This is a case in point, and I have others if you're not convinced
about this one.)
Richard: personally, I would create a PMR and push back on that, if you
don't have workflow.
Shannon Rotz
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Subject: [MAXIMO List] Maximo express user license and workflow
Is a Maximo user assigned an express license able to be license compliant
and still approve a record, such as a PR, via workflow rather than using the
app 'change status'?
My initial reasonableness test was "yes" - it is simply another way of
executing the PR change status.
But then I read this doc which states that you cannot give an express
license user the standard PR screen. It states you must clone the PR app and
remove the 'save' icon so they can only execute the change status and save
without using the save button.
IBM Monitor license type by user. - United States
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436
IBM Monitor license type by user. - United States
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436 App Description
ACTIVITY Read, Save (without Save button), Change Status, Run Reports AMCREW
Read, Save (without Save button), Change Status, Run Reports AMCREWT
View on www-01.ibm.com
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21399436
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Has anyone tackled this one with IBM ?
thanks,
Richard
hey thanks Shannon for your take. Agreed. Will let you know what I hear back from IBM.
answer from IBM pointed back to the same link above. not definitive answer.
This is why PSDI/MRO/IBM isn't really allowed here. You can get tripped up for licensing, and complaining, if they find out. I found your reasoning, and Shannon's, to mirror my own. Gyrations to stay within a contentious license scheme are a waste of time and resources. You might as well expose the functionality through Web Services and avoid giving IBM money altogether.
I mean, that's what a team did with their mobile solutions: huge cost avoidance by writing C# apps to perform the functions they needed, and just hit the MIF with validated transactions.
-C
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answer from IBM pointed back to the same link above. not definitive answer.