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Dear all,
We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
there.
Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed and
we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only be
proceed using change-manual ?
Thanks & Best Regards,
Yudi Irianto
Rada heran kenapa dibeda-bedakan yud....?
Ada masalah bila semua di-workfkowkan?
Warm Regards,
Juniko Batista
PT. INFOGLOBAL AUTOPTIMA
JAKARTA TIMUR
INDONESIA
On Jun 5, 2012 11:50 AM, <yudi.irianto@ytljt.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> there.
> Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed and
> we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
>
> Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only be
> proceed using change-manual ?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
>
>
Pak Juniko,
We can not push users to re-create more than 2000 records to route wf,
afaik, there are alot of statuses which not WAPPR, also all reservation
could be disrupted while going back to WAPPR
Best Regards,
Yudi Irianto
Juniko <juniko@gmail.com>
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Rada heran kenapa dibeda-bedakan yud....?
Ada masalah bila semua di-workfkowkan?
Warm Regards,
Juniko Batista
PT. INFOGLOBAL AUTOPTIMA
JAKARTA TIMUR
INDONESIA
On Jun 5, 2012 11:50 AM, <yudi.irianto@ytljt.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> there.
> Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
and
> we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
>
> Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
be
> proceed using change-manual ?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
>
>
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I`d never upgrade 5.2 to 7.x before.
Does the upgrade utility pa yudi has unable to migrate all outstanding data?
Warm Regards,
Juniko Batista
PT. INFOGLOBAL AUTOPTIMA
JAKARTA TIMUR
INDONESIA
On Jun 5, 2012 12:32 PM, <yudi.irianto@ytljt.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Pak Juniko,
>
> We can not push users to re-create more than 2000 records to route wf,
> afaik, there are alot of statuses which not WAPPR, also all reservation
> could be disrupted while going back to WAPPR
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
> Juniko <juniko@gmail.com>
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> Rada heran kenapa dibeda-bedakan yud....?
> Ada masalah bila semua di-workfkowkan?
>
> Warm Regards,
> Juniko Batista
>
> PT. INFOGLOBAL AUTOPTIMA
> JAKARTA TIMUR
> INDONESIA
> On Jun 5, 2012 11:50 AM, <yudi.irianto@ytljt.com> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> > datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> > workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> > there.
> > Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
> and
> > we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
> >
> > Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
> be
> > proceed using change-manual ?
> >
> > Thanks & Best Regards,
> >
> > Yudi Irianto
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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If I understand correctly, all existing workorder records in 5.2 will continue to be managed manually until they are closed in 7.5. Any new workorder records created in 7.5 will be handled by a new WF.
Then I would just add a condition at the beginning of the WF to check the date the workorder record was created (WORKORDER.REPORTDATE) and have any records before a specific date drop out of WF based on that date check.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, yudi.irianto@... wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> there.
> Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed and
> we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
>
> Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only be
> proceed using change-manual ?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
Hi Jason,
Ur right, any new record v75 created should be routed under WF (we have
done by adding flag before route which v52 record can not route). But the
problem is (mostly user mistake) i cannot trap if a new record v75 using
change status manually.
Best Regards,
Yudi Irianto
"Jason Verly" <jason.verly@yahoo.com>
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If I understand correctly, all existing workorder records in 5.2 will
continue to be managed manually until they are closed in 7.5. Any new
workorder records created in 7.5 will be handled by a new WF.
Then I would just add a condition at the beginning of the WF to check the
date the workorder record was created (WORKORDER.REPORTDATE) and have any
records before a specific date drop out of WF based on that date check.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, yudi.irianto@... wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> there.
> Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
and
> we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
>
> Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
be
> proceed using change-manual ?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
Try conditionally hiding the Change Status icon and the Selection in the drop down using condition manager on the application.
Change Status would only appear if the reported date < xxx and Work Flow icon would only appear if the reported date > xxx.
I will test it out on my VM tomorrow night. Too tired tonight to play around.
Pat Morrow
pmorrow8@yahoo.com
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Hi Jason,
Ur right, any new record v75 created should be routed under WF (we have
done by adding flag before route which v52 record can not route). But the
problem is (mostly user mistake) i cannot trap if a new record v75 using
change status manually.
Best Regards,
Yudi Irianto
"Jason Verly" <jason.verly@yahoo.com>
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If I understand correctly, all existing workorder records in 5.2 will
continue to be managed manually until they are closed in 7.5. Any new
workorder records created in 7.5 will be handled by a new WF.
Then I would just add a condition at the beginning of the WF to check the
date the workorder record was created (WORKORDER.REPORTDATE) and have any
records before a specific date drop out of WF based on that date check.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, yudi.irianto@... wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> there.
> Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
and
> we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
>
> Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
be
> proceed using change-manual ?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
Dear Pat,
your suggestion is gr8, i will try this
Thanks& Best Regards,
Yudi Irianto
Pat Morrow <pmorrow8@yahoo.com>
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Try conditionally hiding the Change Status icon and the Selection in the
drop down using condition manager on the application.
Change Status would only appear if the reported date < xxx and Work Flow
icon would only appear if the reported date > xxx.
I will test it out on my VM tomorrow night. Too tired tonight to play
around.
Pat Morrow
pmorrow8@yahoo.com
From: "yudi.irianto@ytljt.com" <yudi.irianto@ytljt.com>
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Hi Jason,
Ur right, any new record v75 created should be routed under WF (we have
done by adding flag before route which v52 record can not route). But the
problem is (mostly user mistake) i cannot trap if a new record v75 using
change status manually.
Best Regards,
Yudi Irianto
"Jason Verly" <jason.verly@yahoo.com>
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If I understand correctly, all existing workorder records in 5.2 will
continue to be managed manually until they are closed in 7.5. Any new
workorder records created in 7.5 will be handled by a new WF.
Then I would just add a condition at the beginning of the WF to check the
date the workorder record was created (WORKORDER.REPORTDATE) and have any
records before a specific date drop out of WF based on that date check.
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, yudi.irianto@... wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> there.
> Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
and
> we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
>
> Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
be
> proceed using change-manual ?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
You can also lock the record once in WF so status changes are not allowed unless by the WF process itself. This way if some record is in WF it won't be changed by an end user.
http://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21368390
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, Pat Morrow <pmorrow8@...> wrote:
>
> Try conditionally hiding the Change Status icon and the Selection in the drop down using condition manager on the application.
> Change Status would only appear if the reported date < xxx and Work Flow icon would only appear if the reported date > xxx.
> Â
> I will test it out on my VM tomorrow night. Too tired tonight to play around.
>
> Pat Morrow
> pmorrow8@...
>
>
> From: "yudi.irianto@..." <yudi.irianto@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:18 PM
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>
>
> Â
> Hi Jason,
>
> Ur right, any new record v75 created should be routed under WF (we have
> done by adding flag before route which v52 record can not route). But the
> problem is (mostly user mistake) i cannot trap if a new record v75 using
> change status manually.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
> "Jason Verly" <jason.verly@...>
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>
> If I understand correctly, all existing workorder records in 5.2 will
> continue to be managed manually until they are closed in 7.5. Any new
> workorder records created in 7.5 will be handled by a new WF.
>
> Then I would just add a condition at the beginning of the WF to check the
> date the workorder record was created (WORKORDER.REPORTDATE) and have any
> records before a specific date drop out of WF based on that date check.
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com, yudi.irianto@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> > datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> > workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> > there.
> > Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
> and
> > we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
> >
> > Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
> be
> > proceed using change-manual ?
> >
> > Thanks & Best Regards,
> >
> > Yudi Irianto
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I would do this add a field on the workorder table ie. WFPASS YORN default to N where N will trigger to move into WF and Y for the old workorders run SQL to update all old workorders to Y use the date created. On all new WO’s have WF update the field to Y once the workorder enters WF. Set the escalation to only select WO’s with WFPASS =’N’ Joe Russell
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Subject: [MAXIMO List] Re: How to differenciate between change status manual & change status using workflow
You can also lock the record once in WF so status changes are not allowed unless by the WF process itself. This way if some record is in WF it won't be changed by an end user.
http://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21368390
--- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com , Pat Morrow <pmorrow8@...> wrote:
>
> Try conditionally hiding the Change Status icon and the Selection in the drop down using condition manager on the application.
> Change Status would only appear if the reported date < xxx and Work Flow icon would only appear if the reported date > xxx.
> Â
> I will test it out on my VM tomorrow night. Too tired tonight to play around.
>
> Pat Morrow
> pmorrow8@...
>
>
> From: "yudi.irianto@..." <yudi.irianto@...>
> To: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [MAXIMO List] Re: How to differenciate between change status manual & change status using workflow
>
>
> Â
> Hi Jason,
>
> Ur right, any new record v75 created should be routed under WF (we have
> done by adding flag before route which v52 record can not route). But the
> problem is (mostly user mistake) i cannot trap if a new record v75 using
> change status manually.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Yudi Irianto
>
>
>
> "Jason Verly" <jason.verly@...>
> Sent by: MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com
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> If I understand correctly, all existing workorder records in 5.2 will
> continue to be managed manually until they are closed in 7.5. Any new
> workorder records created in 7.5 will be handled by a new WF.
>
> Then I would just add a condition at the beginning of the WF to check the
> date the workorder record was created (WORKORDER.REPORTDATE) and have any
> records before a specific date drop out of WF based on that date check.
>
> --- In MAXIMO@yahoogroups.com , yudi.irianto@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We are in the middle of migrating from 52 to 75, which old outstanding
> > datas will be using change status manual but new record will be use
> > workflow. We decided to run parallel because more than 2000 wos still
> > there.
> > Assume: at worklfow routing we can push only new data could be routed
> and
> > we have flag to differenciate between old & new record.
> >
> > Does anyone know which method shoud i extend so only old data can only
> be
> > proceed using change-manual ?
> >
> > Thanks & Best Regards,
> >
> > Yudi Irianto
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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